“But I think this continues with any sort of medium-term or longer-term view to be a very, very attractive platform for us, and we are very confident that we have significant runway to further scale our business toward our $300 billion target.”

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“lowed their portfolio construction carefully and they've gotten overweighted to a particular sector. They'll obviously have more headwinds. But I don't -- I think one of the things that's really not getting a lot of attention is if you do have a cycle, what does that look like? And so if you take a very tough cycle in the global financial crisis, the cumulative default rates across the entire leverage lending space, the entire leverage lending space during the global financial crisis was 10%, recoveries were about 50%, so the cumulative loss was 5% to 6% against coupons of 9% to 10%. And so that is the business model of this. I think institutional investors understand that. I think there's going to continue to be some noise around the retail space. I think you should watch that carefully. But I think this continues with any sort of medium-term or longer-term view to be a very, very attractive platform for us, and we are very confident that we have significant runway to further scale our business toward our $300 billion target. We've seen significant fundraising across the oil platforms, including this past quarter, $10 billion in credit. And so we're going to continue to grow our institutional business and take a long-term view, but it remains -- I wouldn't say it's a huge growth channel for us, but it's a business that's growing, and we think has good secular construct for a scaled platform like ours. Ebrahim Poonawala: Very comprehensive. If I can -- a quick follow-up. Banks EUs were in D.C. on Friday around concerns around some of the AI-driven risks to banking infrastructure. Anything you can share with us in terms of like is this something extremely different than what banks have had to deal with over the last decade. To the extent you can share any color, I think that would be helpful. And what -- how do”