“That's going to be with us in 2025 as they're rolling out new panels of testing that's going to go through that.”

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“for label expansion indications in TAVR and in LAA. So this is an area that I think what you're seeing now, that kind of growth rate coming from the investments and just great execution from the team so. What was your -- your question was about growth rate and... David Roman: Yes, I was trying to speak a second there was just to contextualize the 25% growth rate given some onetime-ish headwinds like VBP in China Diagnostics and the dynamics in EP being potentially kind of transient as well? Robert Ford: Yeah. I mean, listen, every quarter, every year, there's always going to be some headwind. I want to do is here is assemble David, more tailwinds than headwinds, right? But yeah, I mean, you mentioned one, which is a little bit of a headwind for us in our diagnostic business regarding VBP. That's going to be with us in 2025 as they're rolling out new panels of testing that's going to go through that. But outside of that, I'd say, the diagnostics business is doing very well. Q4 growth rates in most areas were actually higher than the full year growth rate in those same areas, US, Latin America, Europe, even Japan was faster in Q4. So yes, we do have a challenge, but most companies are going to do it. And you know what, we've gone through these, David. Every company goes through a VBP, and what we're trying to do is, okay, we're not going to define the company by having this one kind of headwind. We've got a lot more tailwinds to leverage. We still have deal with it. We're still managing it. It's still an important part of the business. But the company is more than just VBP in diagnostics and one important market, but just one market. So I think the growth rate is very robust. I mean, 8”