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CLAIM #4038 · Adobe Systems Incorporated (ADBE) · 2022Q3 earnings call · Sep 15, 2022 · due Dec 31, 2025

Think about margins that are maybe 1 point to 2 points delta versus where we would be on a standalone basis.

Dan Durn · CFO

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Think about margins that are maybe 1 point to 2 points delta versus where we would be on a standalone basis.
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GAAP EPS came in lower due to the $1 billion payment resulting from the termination of the Figma transaction.

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Look at: Company operating margin versus standalone (pre-Figma) operating margin baseline, in percentage points delta

It came true if: Operating margin delta between -2 and -1 percentage points versus standalone baseline in years one and two post-close, narrowing toward approximately 0 (neutral) by year three post-close

Where: Company-disclosed operating margin commentary and reconciliation (10-K/10-Q, earnings call management commentary)

In context

w we drive product led growth, how we are going to market. But also complementing it with repopulating the campuses, being back to in-person interaction, getting on planes and that’s a bit more reflective of a normalized operating environment. So that’s what I would say, think about maybe the second half of 2022 as a bit more of a normalized environment. As we think about margins in the context of Figma and the transaction, we talked a couple -- about a couple of things. We talked about this is about growth. This is delivering that growth in a disciplined way. So when I think about operating margins in that context, we talked about the second half of 2022 being that baseline more normalized run rate. And if I think about the first couple of years post close, year one, year two post close. Think about margins that are maybe 1 point to 2 points delta versus where we would be on a standalone basis. And then by the time we get to year three, I would expect it to be more neutral from an influence standpoint. And again, I also want to register the point that I mentioned earlier in Q&A. As we get past year one, we are going to start growing EPS faster than our revenue growth profile and so we feel good about that inflection point and driving it in a disciplined way. When we look at GAAP operating margins, obviously, you will see a bigger delta in the near-term. To account for the stock-based compensation, we really view that stock-based compensation to incentivize the employees to stay with the company and unlock those growth potentials and you will see that amortize over a four-year period consistent with our equity programs and then we will be back to a more normalized run rate after

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SEC filings for ADBE · Claim quote is verbatim from the 2022Q3 earnings call.