“I do not believe -- what I believe is that the future on USG and by the way, IG is likely to be at parity with the last decade for both macro reasons and because we simply have products that we built that were not deployed because they were basically they're war time products.”

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“an Stanley. Sanjit Singh: Alex, I wanted to get your view, not so much on the quarter, but sort of the longer-term framework. I noticed that you guys didn't reiterate the 30% outlook. And some sense, that makes sense because deals are uncertain. But I thought it was interesting that you guys took back the 30%, which made it seem that some of the issues that you're seeing in terms of contract, I'm sorry, were you able to hear the question, Alex -- Alex Karp: No, I hear you. I was hoping to see you as well, but it's okay. Keep going. I have the gist of the contract -- of the question. Sanjit Singh: Got it. So I think you know where I'm going at this with some of the contract -- Alex Karp: I am driving the company to get to $4.5 billion in 2025. I believe in driving the company that way. And I do not believe -- what I believe is that the future on USG and by the way, IG is likely to be at parity with the last decade for both macro reasons and because we simply have products that we built that were not deployed because they were basically they’re war time products. So you have MetaConstellation, Nexus Peering and other products that de facto are not that useful unless you're at war. Then you have the Foundry uses, the use of Foundry in the Defense Department and another that get usage, but not the way they should, both on -- for all sorts of issues that are also in civilian. And then you have PG. And the fusing of PG and Foundry was particularly useful, but you have to understand it. So I believe that we will get to the 2025 goal. I tend to view the business the way I view our most important segment of the business, which is there will be ups and downs. Again, the 10-year CAGR on USG is 35%. Unidentified Company Representative: Thanks, Alex. Our next question comes from Mariana with Bank of America. Mariana, please turn on your camera and then you'l”